MarigoldG ([info]marigoldg) wrote,
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About the Challenges...

Hullo Everyone...

 

At last, here is an update about what is going on with the Challenges and Recs Page, and I apologise for taking so long to fill everyone in.


 

 

 

First though, a bit about what has been taking up so much of my time. I started my new job with Heathrow Express and it's the most challenging thing that I've ever undertaken. Most of my shifts are spent working as a train dispatcher at either one of our two stations at Heathrow or at Paddington.

 

The level of responsibility is rather scary. I am responsible for everything that occurs on a train platform that is an 8th of a mile long and that I can barely see to the end of, and that includes the safety of what might, during busy times, be nearly one thousand passengers waiting on the platform, the passengers on the waiting trains, juggling radios and coordinating instructions from Control and various others, making pa's, arranging for the proper signals, keeping to a schedule that is down to the second for up to six trains an hour, ensuring that every train is safe for departure and actually turning the key to allow it to depart from the station.

 

And that is just when things are running smoothly, which quite often they are not. Just over the past few days we have had incidents caused by everything from an unbelievably callous couple shoving their baby in his pushchair through the closing doors of a train in hopes that they wouldn't have to wait a whole 15 minutes for another one to one of our trains hitting a lad riding his bike along the track which caused significant disruptions (the lad wasn't killed thankfully!)

 

As you can imagine this is all quite stressful, and at my age extremely tiring. My mind is going every second, trying to be aware of every single thing that is happening around me and prepared every second for any of a thousand possible emergencies. And on top of this I am commuting at least two and sometimes three hours in each direction, meaning that I often put in a 16-hour day. Llinos comes to fetch me from the airport whenever she can and that helps, but it is 29 miles each way and she certainly can't do that all of the time.

 

On top of all this, LoneWolf and I have put our flat on the market and we have (with Llinos' help once again) been clearing it out, packing, putting things into storage, retiling, painting, repairing, arranging for an electrician, plumber, new carpeting and everything else that goes along with trying to make a rather shabby old flat look appealing and that it's worth enough money for us to buy the little house that we want.

 

I also worked all Christmas week and we had LoneWolf's mum staying with us over the holiday. And finally, I have had no computer for a few weeks as it has been disconnected due to all of the remodelling.

 

So you can understand that outside all of this that I have been doing very little other than sleeping and occasionally having a bite to eat. I am numb by the time that I have a moment to sit down and pretty much in a zombie state. I haven't been able to form a coherent reply to any e-mails or to come to a decision about how to proceed with the Challenges or my Recommendations Page, and rather than make a post that had no real information and that I didn't have the energy to post anyway, I have been putting it off.

 

As well, I knew that any little post that I did make would be commented upon and that I wouldn't have any time to answer those comments, so I didn't say anything. And I do apologise for that, but I know that all of you have been in similar positions before, where you are just too tired to cope, and I felt that as all of you know me so well, and know how dedicated I have been to the fandom for so long, that you would take that into consideration and give me some slack, as I do when positions are reversed.

 

And for the most part all of you have done so, for which I am grateful!

 

The other day though, Llinos and I both received a rather rude letter from one of the regular participants, her intention being that it would make me take notice. Well, I certainly did, though perhaps not as she had intended. I was scolded most thoroughly, and Llinos was too, with everything that we had done recently in the fandom pointed out to us in an accusatory way.

 

Almost everything listed were things that Llinos has done or posted on her own, which has nothing to do with the delay of the Challenges at all – Llinos helps me beta and gives input to the themes, everything else to do with the Challenges are up to me. It is unfair to attack her, and that is what it boiled down to, accusing her of taking the time to do a KnittedHobbit Christmas card or post an older story to SoA when she should have been making posts about the status of the Challenges apparently – no she shouldn't, the Challenges are my responsibility!

 

As the writer pointed out, I did make a post of my own about the Christmas card on my LJ. I took two seconds to do that so that people who wanted one wouldn't miss out – apparently, according to the letter-writer, I was wrong to have taken the time for that, or for the little comment that I wrote on his post about the cards. It was just a couple of days before Christmas though and certainly not a post that required any significant thought, as would one concerning the Challenges.

 

The sender of the letter didn't mention though about the reviews that Llinos or I managed to find time to make on some of her stories, or the stories of others, for the MEFA's; also something that had a specific time limitation, like Christmas. We made a point to do as many of these as we could as the authors deserved to be recognised and we knew the stories for the most part anyway and didn't require any time to read them in order to write our reviews. Most of my reviewing was actually done from an internet café during my lunch break.

 

The letter-writer says that both Llinos and I have been "unbelievably rude" and hurtful by not making any post about the Challenges. Once again, I reiterate, Llinos has no part in any perceived rudeness, in fact she had replied to the writer earlier explaining that I was busy. The writer also says that I have received e-mails from several others about my silence – I haven't; just one other person has written about them, at least in the past few weeks that I am able to scroll back and it was a nice little note of inquiry.

 

Added to which, after the author had received a reply from Llinos to her e-mail and had written a subsequent one on the same day, to which Llinos also replied, the letter-writer actually phoned me on my mobile at work when I happened to be on my lunch break to restate her complaints about my silence. She says that she meant it in concern and friendship as well as in anger over my lack of availability and likely she did, but the result was that this just added to my stress and frustration over the whole situation, particularly when she said that quite a few people were discussing my rudeness in private e-mails.

 

This was very hurtful to hear as you can imagine, to whatever extent that it is true. As I said above I had assumed that people would be understanding of my situation, which most folks that I am in regular contact with are well aware of and sympathetic about.

 

I had already been rather annoyed during the last posted Challenge when one of the participants not only posted her Challenge story two days early on a Yahoo group that she moderates but also went to the trouble to consciously remove a beta credit for Llinos that was already on the document when it was sent back to her, an appallingly rude and dishonest thing to do. That particular group has over 300 members and to post her story consciously removing the beta credit was taking away credit from a friend and editor where it was due. Not the first time that she has done so, but the first time that I wrote to her about her actions. I have never received a response to that e-mail.

 

To make a long rant short, the incident with the removal of the beta-credit had already made me question whether I should continue to put so much time and effort into the Challenges, but this latest incident with the letters and phone call has made me decide that perhaps it would be better to stop the Challenges, for a while at least.

 

The Challenges were meant to be fun and to contribute quality hobbit fanfic to the fandom. And for nearly four years that is what we all accomplished by working together, and I thank each and every one that participated in any way.

 

It is clear from the incidents described above though, that the whole business is being taken too seriously by some people at the moment and perhaps this would be a good time for a hiatus. I could obviously use one anyway, at least until LoneWolf and I manage to move to our new house and I get my British driving licence which will ease the commuting burden.

 

So, with reluctance, instead of proposing a bi-monthly Challenge, which is what I had finally decided to do, I am stopping Marigold's Challenge. I can't possibly live up to what certain people are expecting of me – I have a job and a very busy life outside the fandom unlike some others – the whole thing was meant to be fun for me as well, but others seem now to take for granted the fact that I spent so much of my free time to produce the Challenge every month. It was my pleasure to do so and I am sorry that I finally failed along the way.

 

I certainly am not including everyone in this rant or in making my decision! I have made so many friends throughout the fandom and through the Challenges in particular and I value each of you, even though I may not post constantly on your LJ's or exchange long e-mails. That doesn't mean that I am not thinking of you though, just that I am overwhelmed sometimes by RL issues and demands, as, I am sure, are most of you as well.

 

My Recommendations Page will be on hold indefinitely as well, as I obviously don't have time for searching out good stories at the moment.

 

Hopefully the Recs Page will be back in action soon. I am not so certain about the Challenges, but perhaps someday I will be in a position and a frame of mind in which to start them up again, though I doubt that it will be on a monthly basis.

 

So, anyone that sent a story in for a Challenge that was not posted, please feel free to consider those postable where and when you please to do so.

 

And once again I apologise for not updating you sooner than this as to the situation, even though I wasn't sure myself exactly what the situation was going to be!

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[info]maniac1

January 10 2008, 22:00:38 UTC 4 years ago

Oh wow... sigh.

I'm so sorry things have been so stressful for you lately, especially the attitudes of certain people. I knew through Llinos how busy you are, and though I certainly didn't want the challenges to end, I can see how you would be obliged to, at least for awhile. My thoughts have been with you a lot, and I hope RL settles down a wee bit for you, although keeping busy can be a really good thing, too.

My thoughts are with you!



Deb

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 18:30:26 UTC 4 years ago

Hullo Deb : )

Thanks so much for the good thoughts, they are most appreciated. I hope that all is well with you.

Hopefully I can start the Challenges up again in a few months. Some people need to remember though that the fandom is meant to be fun and is voluntary!

Hugs

L

[info]febobe

January 10 2008, 22:13:20 UTC 4 years ago

That's appalling, what was done to you.

A few people seem to forget that those of us who head up challenges, groups, recs, etc. are *volunteers* who give our own time, just like everyone else, not paid staff reporting in and punching a time clock for our duties. (Believe me, if we could only get paid for dealing with hobbitry. . . . ;D )

For what it's worth, I never once had a negative thought about your absence/silence. I simply assumed that RL was keeping you busy and that you'd return when you could. . .I'm just happy to see my friends when I can see them, and I don't feel the Challenges or the Recs are your "job" or that you've been neglectful in any way. I feel you've given the fandom a splendid gift over the years. You certainly have given me a splendid gift through them, one for which I'm greatly appreciative. . .and your reviews also have meant the WORLD to me. Not to mention the superb beta work y'all have done, and. . .oh, heck, now I'm gonna cry. . . .

Please know that for every person out there who's ready to criticize you, there are probably thirty or more of us ready to jump to your defence. I know I certainly am! You have been such a sweetheart and such a special part of my life, and I will be eternally grateful to you whether or not the Challenges and Recs *ever* resume on a regular basis.

Love and snugs,
Febobe :)

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 18:37:56 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you so much K! I really appreciate you taking the time to say such nice things!

I assumed that everyone (like you did) would realise that I was just busy - and in fact this person had written and got an explanation from Llinos just a couple of weeks ago, so knew very well how busy I was.

Like most people I do what I can in the fandom when I have the time to do so - some people might have all day to sit in front of a computer but I certainly don't nor do most of us.

Thanks so much for saying these things - it's really nice to feel appresiated when someone has made you feel that you are rather useless and not making a contribution. How quickly some folks forget, lol!

I have really enjoyed getting to know you at least a little through the fandom! Thank you so much for being so quick to leap to my defense!

I hope that all is good with you right now, health and otherwise...

Hugs

L

[info]shirebound

January 10 2008, 22:30:52 UTC 4 years ago

It was my pleasure to do so and I am sorry that I finally failed along the way.

You have not failed in ANY way, and have nothing to apologize for. I'm shocked, Marigold! I think that author is incredibly selfish and rude, and is completely taking you (and this fandom) for granted. You've contributed so much time, energy, love, and creativity to us, it should be applauded, not criticized.

*applauds loud and long*

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 18:42:56 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you Janet! I feel better about it all now but really did feel as if I had let everyone down because of the things that were said. But I am only human and I do have a very busy life right now outside the fandom and that has to take precedence. I couldn't believe that this person, a very well known author, would be so petty and insensitive.

Thank you so much for your kind words, they've really helped to cheer me up!

Hugs

L

[info]dreamflower02

January 10 2008, 22:43:10 UTC 4 years ago

You have carried the Challenges for four years now! They've had a good long run--but your RL has to take precedence!

It's quite likely a break will do you a lot of good, and take some of the pressure off. And in the meanwhile, there are hundreds of hobbit-fics out there that would not even have existed without the Challenges, and many stories that found a wider readership through your Recs.

You've worked like a Trojan and now you deserve to rest.

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 18:47:43 UTC 4 years ago

Thanks Barbara : )

I wish that my break was actually a break but my time is so filled with other things right now that it doesn't seem so! The Challenges and Recs are just immposible right now. Maybe in a few months though, when we are settled in the new house...

I am pleased that so many Challenge stories are out there, and so many of them are just wonderful! The project did take a massive amount of time though so it is a relief not to have to worry about coping with all of that work right now.

Hugs

L

[info]eldanna

January 10 2008, 22:43:33 UTC 4 years ago

Oh, love, you've had a time of it an no mistake! But I understand how life gets sometimes and that, as much as we all hate it, work and real life must come first.

And I am so very sorry you had to receive such a rude letter. As if you've not enough to deal with!

Best wishes for the months to come (and good luck with the job - my that's like being an air traffic controller!) and lots of hugs!

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 18:53:59 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you eldanna! I really appreciate you taking the time to cheer me up! I'd love to be doing fandom stuff right now and can't wait until I can be back in the thick of things. But real life does come first, at least for most of us.

The letters and phone call came at a very stressful time and were very upsetting. But I am starting to put this in the proper perspective now and realise that in the great scheme of things the negative actions of a couple of people can't negate any good that I have managed to contribute in the past.

I love my job! Really it is the commuting that is taking such a toll. I am the same age that Blbo was when he left on his first adventure so it's all very tiring.

Thank you so much for the good thoughts!

Hugs

Lesley (Marigold)

[info]rhapsody11

January 10 2008, 23:00:31 UTC 4 years ago

Mari, I think had to re-read this line a couple of times before it sunk in:
I am sorry that I finally failed along the way.

You never did so, not to me and to all those others who started out by doing the challenges, getting the encouragement to continue and grow in writing, advise, the many glances over, tips, hugs, nudges, betareading... the list will be to long to list it here. Sometimes I look back on how far I have come and you Mari, you have done so much for me in the beginning and I do believe for so many others. I think I am just... I think the news hasn't sunk in yet, but never ever not in a million years did you fail.

I cherish the mefa review I got from both you gals (rl has been rather busy to send an e-mail that would reflect that appreciation) and I so enjoyed reading the Christmas card made by Llinos & the KnittedHobbits(I read it with Kevin and it was so much fun).

Yes, RL is extremely busy for you.. so please take this hiatus to hang in there and realise those dreams first with your love. We will wait until you are ready to start again and only if you really feel up for it again. We will be here.

Much ♥♥♥

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:00:46 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you so much Rhapsody! I just felt when this all happened that it seemed all that I had done in the past was worthless, for it to be so readily forgotten by such a well known author.

I hope that you did well in the MEFA's - I haven't had a chance to check the winners list yet. It was my pleasure to review your work and I just wish that I could have reviewed everything of yours!

Thank you so much for commenting and cheering me up! I really appreciate it.

Hugs to you and Kevin

L

[info]grav_ity

January 10 2008, 23:19:34 UTC 4 years ago

Congrats on the new job! I hope the commute works out for you.

I cannot believe that someone would say such things about your Challenges! Sometimes people forget that the internet is for fun (for everyone), and it's always the nicest people who suffer for it.

In case I haven't said it recently, I think you are awesome. Scotland was fantastic and I loved my card.

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:06:11 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you K! I love the job and the commute will be manageable when I get my UK DL.

It was the fact that the person is a really well known author that really added to my hurt, as if anything I had done for the fandom in the past didn't seem to mean anything because she wasn't willing to put up with waiting when she wanted something done at once. If she had asked me nicely for her pending Challenge story I would have told to go ahead and post it with my blessing!

It's awesome that *you* think that I am awesome because I was so impressed in Scotland with how awesome you are! You will have to come over again sometime!

Hugs

L

[info]songspinner9

January 10 2008, 23:22:57 UTC 4 years ago

I'm sorry that something like that happened. Take care of yourself first - I'll keep writing and post on Stories of Arda if I can, and I'd love to keep up with you as an LJ friend, yes? And I'll be happy to participate in whatever you decide to do with the challenges later on as they've meant a lot to me, as have your helpful comments and support.

HUGS

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:09:26 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you L! As soon as I get some time I will go over to SoA to see what I have been missing and I hope to find some work by you there!

I hope to do more Challenges, perhaps in the summer, and I'd be so pleased if you'd participate! It's always a pleasure to work with you.

Hugs

L

[info]birch_tree

January 10 2008, 23:28:00 UTC 4 years ago

I think you needn't apologise, or explain anything to anyone... as others have already pointed out, you're not being paid for everything you're doing for the fandom.
You have a job, responsibilities, a life!
I understand that people may be concerned, out of friendship, but making you feel guilty is something unbelievable.

I see you're disappointed, but I hope you'll soon forget it and start enjoying the fandom and the love from it again, with the same old enthusiasm, but with the dedication you can -and want- to give it.
Loads of hugs, love and thanks!

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:24:00 UTC 4 years ago

Thanks Birch Tree : )

I understand someone being concerned and do appreciate that. This person knew though that I was well and happy and that I was simply very busy as she'd just been corresponding with Llinos about it a couple of weeks ago. So these letters and phone call out of the Blue really caught me off guard. It seemed as if everything I had done in the past didn't mean a thing because I was too busy to do fandom things right now.

And I can't help being disappointed about the person that purposely removed the beta credit before posting to her group because that is just dishonest and you don't want to find out that people you know are that way.

I am seeing things with much clearer perspective now, thanks to all of the supportive comments and I feel much better about needing to focus on RL for a while.

Thank you so much for taking the time to say such nice things!

Hugs

Lesley (Marigold)

[info]monkey5s

January 10 2008, 23:47:08 UTC 4 years ago

Hi, I never participated, but I did read some of the stories, and I have kept you friended as a way to keep access to the challenge stories for when I wanted a nice read. I also enjoyed the recs, and the guest-recs, even if I am one of those awful people who doesn't leave feedback.

I find it appalling how you were treated. There had been posts about how frantic your life was, and I would have thought this would be enough to let anyone know you had other obligations taking your time at the moment. To be criticized, and chastised, like a bad child, for having a life? Really irks me.

I hope you can relax about this one thing for a good long time, until your life gets less urgently frenzied. Please understand that you DID. NOT. FAIL. Not by any measure have you failed. Nor do you owe ANYBODY anything. As others have pointed out, you were doing this because you wanted to- NOT because you were obligated to.

Thank you so much for the hard work you've done for the previous four years!

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:38:45 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you, so much, as well!

If you were aware how hectic my life was right now I can't see how this person didn't understand, especially as she had been corresponding with Llinos about it just a couple of weeks ago. So I was really caught off guard. She is a very well known author that I have known online for quite some time and I wouldn't have thought that she would ever send someone a letter like that to "get their attention".

I am really glad that you have enjoyed the Challenges and all of the Recs, mine and the guests! Hopefully everything will start up again in a couple of months. Please keep readining and don't be shy about reviewing!

Thank you again : )

Hugs

Lesley (Marigold)

[info]ceshaughnessy

January 10 2008, 23:52:11 UTC 4 years ago

And while we're giving kudos - here's a great BIG HAND to all those writers and reviewers without whose participation and loyalty, Marigold's Challenges would have been nothing.

[info]grey_wonderer

January 11 2008, 08:29:54 UTC 4 years ago

The writers certainly do deserve credit for their stories but without someone providing them with a forum in which to post and the story starters, then many of those wonderful fictions that we've all reviewed and enjoyed would never have come about. It must have been very difficult to come up with a new challenge idea every month for four years and to do all of those betas. You know what it's like to run a site and all of the effort that takes so you know exactly what I mean, Cathleen. I second your praise for the writers and reviewers and would like to include a huge THANK YOU to Marigold and Llinos for making it all happen.

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[info]lbilover

January 11 2008, 00:03:03 UTC 4 years ago

I guess I can't understand anyone giving you a hard time about something you've done out of love for LOTR and in your spare time :( I don't think you owe any apologies. I for one am just grateful to have been able to participate in some of the challenges. I hope when things settle down that perhaps you will feel up to starting them again. They are such a wonderful asset to the fandom, as are you.

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:32:10 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you sweetie! I was really taken by surprise by this person's actions as she is a very well known author that I have known (on the internet) for quite a while. This person doesn't work though so I suppose she doesn't really realise what it means to have so few hours to call your own.

I was always very pleased when you had time to participate in the Challenges and I hope that if I do manage to run some in the future that you will come and play!

Thank you so much for saying such nice things - I love this fandom and treasure everything that it has given me, especially such caring friends.

Hugs

L

[info]rabidsamfan

January 11 2008, 00:33:05 UTC 4 years ago

*hugs* Sorry that you got ranted at -- that was out of line. But I think you should awfully proud of all the wonderful things the challenges have done over the years!

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:43:10 UTC 4 years ago

Thanks very much RSF : ) It was out of line and certainly unexpected, especially given who it was.

I am starting to see things with a happier perspective now and realise that I have made a worthwhile contribution in the past. Thanks so much for helping to remind me of that!

Hugs

Lesley

[info]lily_the_hobbit

January 11 2008, 00:40:58 UTC 4 years ago

I'm sorry to hear you're stopping the challenges - at least for the time being - but I can fully understand. They have always been very inspiring but I know how RL can cut you off fandom and the muse.

You're post also reminds me that I still haven't properly thanked you and Llinos for your Christmas card. All I did was making a short comment in my journal. I wasn't expecting anything at all and was really delighted to find a card of the knitted ones at my door when I came back from my holiday in Austria.

I hope everything goes well with your move and that work will eventually be less stressful (if that's at all possible - it sounds like a dreadful job to a lazybones like me).

*hugs*

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:45:34 UTC 4 years ago

Hopefully the Challenges will be back, maybe in a few months. I will let Llinos and the KnittedHobbits know that you enjoyed your card!

Thanks for all of the good thoughts and I hope that you are all settled in now!

Hugs

Lesley

[info]piplover

January 11 2008, 01:00:23 UTC 4 years ago

For all that you have done for fandom you should get a medal. No one has the right to criticize you or Llinos, especially after all you two have done and all the passion you have instilled. RL takes priority, and it sounds like you are certainly having enough of it for three people.

Just take care of yourself, and know that we all love you very much. I am sorry I haven't been around much, either, but with school and work my life, also, has been one constant motion after another. Perhaps in a few months things will calm down for you and you will have a bit more free time. If that does not happen, though, we all know that just living can be a full time job.

I am thinking of you and wishing you all the best 2008 can offer. I hope you are well, and taking care of yourself. And if you can't find the energy or time to respond to this, I understand that, too. Just know that I am thinking of you, and love you very much. Take care, all right? You and Llinos both.

*Huggles you tight*

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 19:55:23 UTC 4 years ago

Hullo K! I have been thinking about you and wondering how you are doing. I know that you are just about as busy as I am!

RL does have to take priority sometimes and maybe it's hard for someone who doesn't work to understand that. But there is no need to be so mean-spirited about things - if she had just asked me if she could go ahead and post her pending Challenge story I would have said fine but she didn't and that's that.

On top of my already being upset about that person purposely removing Llinos's beta credit to post a Challenge story on her list, as well as posting it early, this letter and phone call business was just too much.

Keep in touch when you can!

Hugs

L

[info]lindelea1

January 11 2008, 01:04:09 UTC 4 years ago

I've heard of this kind of thing before, most recently a fanfic writer being insulted and harassed by a "fan" who thought a certain story was not being updated often enough. People forget that we do this for love and not for money, and sometimes love is not enough to keep things going in a "timely" manner in the face of RL demands.

The Challenges I participated in stretched me as a writer. There were themes I doubt I'd have visited, on my own bent, such as Lotho's thoughts, or "Tales of Old Wives". Sometimes I could not write, after asking for a prompt, and you were always gracious about it. You never chided me for my failure to follow through. You were understanding and always ready to give me another chance, another prompt, just in case the Muse might be inclined to nod and smile.

Please don't kick yourself or let anyone (even yourself) tell you that you've failed, at least in the promotion of fanfic in general and hobbity fanfic in particular. There is a lot of good reading out there that can be directly or indirectly laid at your doorstep.

Although I have not been able to write to prompts, even Challenge prompts, for too long, due to health and other constraints, I have always had a warm spot in my heart for "Marigold's Challenges", and hope to get back and read the ones I missed, at least someday.

In the meantime, take care of yourself, take your vitamins, try to get enough sleep, and let your dh pamper you if he wishes. (I haven't always let my dh pamper me, but I'm not so stiff-necked and proud as I used to be.) I hope this move means you'll be closer to your work, and will cut time off your commute. I also hope your job will become less stressful with experience, or that you can find less stressful work if that's not the case.

I'm home with three sick young hobbits, and I need to go and read aloud now. So I'll stop rambling and end with a *hug*.

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 20:01:46 UTC 4 years ago

Hi Lin : )

Unfortunately some people can't seem to understand that what people need to do and what they want to do aren't necessarily the same things.

I am glad that the Challenges challenged you a bit! I always enjoyed your stories, Challenge or otherwise, and look forward to having some time soon to go back and reread some of my favourites.

I absolutely LOVE my job - I never imagined that there could be a job so perfect for me. It's the commute that's the really tiring bit.

Hugs to you and the little ones!

L

[info]aricadavidson

January 11 2008, 01:07:39 UTC 4 years ago

Sorry to hear about what happened to you! *hugs*

Good luck with everything!

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 20:04:18 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you so much for taking the time to cheer me up!

Hugs

Lesley (Marigold)

[info]mumstheword54

January 11 2008, 01:10:15 UTC 4 years ago

Oh, dear, Marigold! What a stressful situation you're in, and what a huge responsibility you have!

*hugs and prayers for wisdom, presence of mind, and a successful sale and move*

As another non-participant but delighted reader, I echo everyone else's response:

You've in NO WAY failed, but have been the catalyst for more wonderful fanfic than we can count. AND you've encouraged many novices to go ahead and try their hand at writing -- with great success!

How anyone can dare to criticise you and Llinos rather than thanking and blessing you -- well, it's pure spite, ingratitude, and wickedness.

You take as long as you need to catch your breath and re-direct your energies, dear Marigold. We on your friends list would be very glad to see an occasional post from you -- when you want to post. We'd love to see photos of your new house, or before-and-after shots of your flat, or anything like that. But give yourself the gift of freedom -- to take care of RL family and work, to browse LJ and post when you want, to let go of Marigold's Challenges for as long as you need to.

God bless you and Lone Wolf, keep you healthy and safe, and renew your joy and strength.

*big hugs and many blessings*

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 20:10:43 UTC 4 years ago

Thanks so much for saying such nice things! I am seeing things in a cheerier perspective today thanks to everyone's support. The letters and phone call made me feel as though the author who was so upset had just forgotten everything I had ever done just because this Challenge was stalled. If she had just asked me if she could go ahead and post her pending story I would have said that of course she could! But she didn't and that's that.

But there are almost 900 Challenge stories I think and that's a pretty good contribution or legacy or whatever you want to call it! I am so glad to hear that you have enjoyed the Challenges! Hopefully I can start them up again in a few months.

Thank you so much again for being so thoughtful and understanding!
Hugs

Lesley (Marigold)

[info]celandine_g

January 11 2008, 01:30:03 UTC 4 years ago

How exciting your job sounds! And so responsible. Whew! It must be almost thrilling at times but of course so exhausting. My job is like that and sometimes I get so tired that I just lose all prospective of things. But I hope you can get some of the logistics in better shape so you can enjoy it and not be doing 16 hr days. I have done that and have it down to 12 hr days now--which is better, LOL.

Anyway, I'm sure you have nothing to berate yourself for regarding the challenges--I saw them so many times but was just to busy and tired to participate. But I'm sure they were fun for everyone. As for that "person" well, consider the source and dump them. I hope there is a way to keep them out of your part of the fandom and away from your world. But no matter, it sounds like your life is going better than theirs, if that's all they have to do with it--so they are to be pitied and forgotten--and jettisoned--like flotsom (whatever that is, LOL).

Good luck with everything, MG, and thanks for writing. I'm glad you got it out in the open and good riddance to bad rubbish. Some good old Anglo-saxon terms also come to mind but I will leave them to your imagination. :)

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 20:15:34 UTC 4 years ago

Thanks Celandine! I really appreciate your support and everyone elses. If one good thing has come out of this it is that!

Hopefully you've at least read some of the Challenge stories as there are some really wonderful contributions! And maybe when I start them up again you won't be so tired and just a bit less busy and can participate in one or two yourself - you'd certainly be welcome.

My life *is* good tight now (knock wood!) and I love my job - hopefully I can cut my commute down soon. A 12 hour day sounds wonderful!

Thank you again, very much!

Hugs

Lesley (Marigold)

[info]garnet_took

January 11 2008, 03:10:21 UTC 4 years ago

Oh, Marigold. I can't believ--oh wait, yes I can, that someone was so rude and hateful toward you. It seems that an element of unkindness that exists in other fandoms has begun to creep into ours.

You deserve nothing but praise for all you have done, especially for the hobbit portion of the fandom. I enjoyed, and learned a lot from, the challenges. You and Llinos did a wonderful job. Your Recs page is one I still refer to often.

I wouldn't want the job you've taken on for all the money in the world. That is a LOT of responsibility to bear. Also that commute is murder. I've been there and know exactly what it's like. It is more than understandable that you just don't have the time to devote to a hobby when your life is more full than you can handle comfortably.

I feel like I'm rambling and repeating what others have said, but I just want you to know that I understand why you have to step back. Take as long as you need. Do only what makes you feel good in your reading, writing and responding.

Thank you so much for the review you gave my story at the MEFA's. I was so thrilled, especially knowing how busy you are.

I haven't been posting much myself because of personal issues, so I never got to thank Llinos and yourself for the Christmas Card (oh, and a thank you to the knitted hobbits, too). It arrived on Christmas eve. Just perfect.:)

Hope you are able to sell your flat and get the house you want. That is always such a cool, but stressful, thing.

Hope to see the occasional post from you, when you feel you have the time to drop in. Also, here's hoping for an eventual resumption of the Challenges and the Recs.

We love you.

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 20:23:06 UTC 4 years ago

Hullo Garnet and thank you so much! I was really surprised that the person did what they did as they are a very well known hobbit writer and she has been an internet friend for a while. If she had just asked if she could go ahead and post her pending Challenge story I would have said of course she could! But she just jumped on me, even though she had been corresponding with Llinos about how busy we were just a couple of weeks before.

I am so glad that you have enjoyed what Llinos and I have contributed to the fandom so far and hopefully we will be able to do more once things settle down. I was glad to be able to do your review! I just wish that I'd had time to write a better one.

The offer my husband and I made on the little house that we want has been accepted, now we just need to sell our flat!

I hope that your personal issues are all sorted soon and that when I am able to start the Challenges again that you will participate!

Thank you again for such lovely comments!

Hugs

L

[info]grey_wonderer

January 11 2008, 06:35:10 UTC 4 years ago

How can anyone be that thoughtless? If I let myself go this post will turn into an ugly rant so instead...

I think I will start at the very beginning which for me, was 'Marigold's Recommendations'. Before I ever dared to write a single word of fan fiction I found 'Marigold's Recommendations' while trying to find 'something with hobbits in it' to hold me over until the next film came out. I consider your Recommendations page to have been my gateway to fanfiction and to Live Journal and to writing. Every Friday I would check to see what you were recommending and then rush over to read it. Without that Rec's page I would never have found a third of the wonderful authors and stories that you directed me to with your selections. I still go to the Rec's page to find favorites! I also got a lot of lovely reviews for my stories because you pointed people in my direction.

Along with your wonderful Recommendation's page, the Challenges have helped to keep people reading and writing. The Challenges helped to ensure that there were new stories out there. Good stories about Hobbits written by writers who had been encouraged and helped by both you and Llinos. I know my own writing has been helped tremendously, and in some cases SAVED, by beta's that the two of you have done for me. I feel very lucky to have received your help and expertise.

It is easy to review a story by an author you enjoy or to read a story in your spare time but I can't imagine reading and doing Beta's on anywhere from eight to twenty-five challenge stories and then posting them each and every month! The fact that you've managed to do this for all of this time is quite amazing. YOU HAVE NOT FAILED. You have excelled! Not only did you give starters, beta and post but you made certain that NO ONE flamed anyone else's work. One thing I always respected was the fact that you did not tolerate nasty reviews and that you encouraged everyone to leave feedback. Don't let anyone lessen what you've accomplished. This has been a very special experience for all of us and you have been at the heart of it!

Thank you and Llinos for the Rec's page, The Challenges, the Betas, the story ideas that you gave me, Scotmoot, finding Errol, the Knitted Hobbits' adventures, and most of all, your friendship!

I hope you and Lone Wolf are in that new house soon! Keep those trains running and write *when you have time*. Real life comes first and your friends will be here for you. Much love and British hugs to all.

(I wasn't going to put all of this here but as you know, sometimes I can't stop writing.)

[info]marigoldg

January 13 2008, 18:57:48 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you so much for such a wonderful and supportive letter Kathie! You know that I appreciate it very much! I am so glad that you enjoyed the Recs and Challenges and everything! Hopefully they will be back in a few months. Then I am going to badger you for lots of hobbity fics that incorporate sheep and nekkidness (not necessarily nekkid sheep, although there is the story you've been working on...)!

It was always my hope that people would find the stories that I recced and instigated for the Challenges enjoyable - one reason that I started each of these projects was to promote and encourage the writing of Merry and Pippin fanfiction which was in very short supply back then. The Challenges have produced nearly 900 stories at this point, a large majority of them about my two favourite hobbits! I am very pleased about that!

It WAS a lot of work but I really enjoyed myself too and I am looking forward to being able to continue them after my hiatus. Although I may make a few changes I certainly will continue to insist that everything be fair as fairness and feedback and credit given where it is due are all very important to me.

The best thing about my fandom activities though have been the truly wonderful friends that I have come to know and you are most
definitely one of them - that goes for Errol too!

British Hugs and Air-kisses

L

Anonymous

January 11 2008, 08:18:43 UTC 4 years ago


Oh Marigold what an awful thing to happen to you! I can't believe the gall of some people - you've been doing a fantastic job and have given lots of joy to lots of folk.
I hope one day you will feel like re-instating the challenges but even if you don't I will be grateful for all your hard work (& Llinos too). Thank you!!
I hope your job settles down & the commuting gets easier & you find a lovely house to live in.
hugs
Blossom

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 20:26:53 UTC 4 years ago

Thank you Blossom, for stopping in to cheer me up! I really appreciate it and am feeling a lot better about things today. I am so glad that you have enjoyed the things that Llinos and I've been able to do in the fandom. I hope to start things up again in a few months.

The job is wonderful and once I get my commute sorted I will be fine. And my husband and I have had our offer accepted on a lovely little house in the Shire - now all we have to do is get our flat sold!

Thank you again for being so kind!

Hugs

Lesley (Marigold)

[info]golden80

January 11 2008, 11:10:03 UTC 4 years ago

It´s a pitty, that the Challenges stop, however it is good to hear something from you, even if its that. I have to admit, I was starting to worry and feel a bit annoyed to hear nothing too.
However that is a lot of stress you have...too much stress really. Hope you will be able to lower your working hours down. You say for someone your age it is tiring...but it is also dangerous ( at everyones age really). Find time to relax. Even sometimes it might not work a different way, but just don´t forget that HEALTH is the most valuable thing we have! Also I hope that you and X and X will in privat find ways to forgive each other and be friends again. It´s forgiveness that we need most in the world ( look at all the conflicts in the world, that don´t end, cause no one makes the beginning to forgive), so why not at least in the "small LOTR/ especially Hobbit fanfiction world" forgive each other in "a hobbity manner"?
Take care! And thank you for all the work you put into betareadng my stories!
Golden

[info]slightlytookish

January 11 2008, 11:23:59 UTC 4 years ago

Please don't apologize for anything! You've given so much to the hobbit community, and now it's time for you to take a break, and everyone should be understanding of that. Your Challenges created a safe haven for new writers (like me!). I remember watching silently for months when you first began them and seeing how friendly everyone was - that was what made me want to try writing and posting too. I made my very first LJ friends from the first Challenge I entered back in 2004. I'm very grateful to you for that! And I know I'm not the only one whose had a similar experience.

Take good care of yourself and don't worry about any online silliness. *big hugs*

[info]marigoldg

January 12 2008, 20:31:15 UTC 4 years ago

Thanks J, I really appreciate you commenting as I know that you are incredibly busy yourself! I thought that everyone understood what was going on with me but apparantly not - or else she just didn't care.

One of the things that I am most proud of is that *you* started as a Challenge author! That makes me so pleased and proud you can't imagine! I hope that when I start them up again you will have time now and then to participate.

And thank you so much for making all of those stunning icons for the Challenges! Even when you were completely swamped with work yourself you always came through and I really appreciate it!

Thank you again for everything!

Hugs

L

[info]ansostuff

January 11 2008, 11:29:11 UTC 4 years ago

First of all ((((((((hugs)))))))))

I haven't paid much attention to the Chellenges this last year, perhaps even longer, so I can't comment upon that or this person accusing you of rudeness. For my part I can only say they were very inspiring for me in the period of my life I wrote fics - which i haven't done for almost two years now.

I have noticed you've been absent and thought you were busy, but I had no idea you were this busy! That job sounds positively breathtaking! Add ot that the commuting and looking for a new place to lie it's no wonder yoü're exhausted! I hope you get that little house you want soon and that things settle down for you and LnoeWolf so that you can have the life you want and deserve.

[info]marigoldg

February 16 2008, 15:07:53 UTC 4 years ago

Hi Anso : )

Sorry to be so long responding! The job is pretty breathtaking but I really love it so that makes it all worth while, even the really long commute.

Hope that you are doing well, and thank you for the hugs!
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